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		<title>The 2015 White Sox</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Not to indicate a diminished level of excitement for this year&#8217;s team&#8211;how can we ever write off the chances of a team with superior health maintenance and a perennially top 10 payroll competing for the No. 5 slot in the AL?&#8211;but Chris Sale being locked into a potentially $60 million bear hug for potentially the [...]</p><p><a href="http://southsideshowdown.com/2013/03/11/the-2015-white-sox/">The 2015 White Sox</a> - <a href="http://southsideshowdown.com">Southside Showdown</a> - <a href="http://southsideshowdown.com">Southside Showdown - A Chicago White Sox Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to indicate a diminished level of excitement for this year&#8217;s team&#8211;how can we ever write off the chances of a team with superior health maintenance and a perennially top 10 payroll competing for the No. 5 slot in the AL?&#8211;but <a href="http://southsideshowdown.com/2013/03/08/chris-sale-extends-to-the-delight-of-many/" target="_blank">Chris Sale being locked into a potentially $60 million bear hug</a> for potentially the rest of the decade led to thinking on the 2015 team.</p>
<p>Why 2015? Well, to reduce to one player, it&#8217;s when <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dunnad01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Adam  Dunn</a></strong>&#8216;s contract&#8211;that the White Sox simply have no chance at getting full return on&#8211;goes off the books. It&#8217;s also when <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/peavyja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Jake  Peavy</a></strong> and <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/riosal01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Alex  Rios</a></strong> reach the option stages of their contracts, and the White Sox have to come to some decisions about their future.</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/134/files/2013/03/2015-White-Sox.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3647" title="2015 White Sox" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/134/files/2013/03/2015-White-Sox.png" alt="" width="225" height="564" /></a></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t include all of the pre-arbitration guys, because this list is long enough, and these guys are not relevant beyond &#8220;hey, Quintana can hold down a rotation spot and still make the league minimum in 2015.&#8221;</p>
<p>But as you can see here, the White Sox have $34.75 million committed to four players in 2015. Peavy can force his own way on by meeting innings cutoffs and exercising his option. That has everything to do with where Peavy is at professionally after these next two years, but the Rios decision is more of a statement on both Rios holding up, and whether multiple starters have emerged from this current prospect glut of <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=mitche001jar&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Jared  Mitchell</a></strong>, <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=thomps003tra&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Trayce  Thompson</a></strong> and maybe even <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hawkin000cou&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Courtney  Hawkins</a></strong> by this time.</p>
<p>De Aza might be getting pricier in arbitration, but probably not as much as Beckham, who seems hard-pressed to provide the value necessary to avoid getting non-tendered by that point given that Keppinger and <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/player_search.cgi?results=sanche008car,sanche007car,sanche009car,sanche004car&#038;utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Carlos  Sanchez</a></strong> could be sapping away his plate appearances. Considering &#8216;what will <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/player_search.cgi?results=sanchan02,sanche008ang,sanche006ang&#038;utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Angel  Sanchez</a></strong> and <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/morelbr01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Brent  Morel</a></strong> fetch in their second year of arbitration?&#8217; is waste of time, too.</p>
<p><strong>Relevant notes:</strong></p>
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<li><span style="font-size: 13px;">A starting rotation of Sale, Old Peavy (at this point), Danks, Santiago and Quintana&#8211;something that was considered multiple times </span><em style="font-size: 13px;">just this off-season</em><span style="font-size: 13px;">, is already under payroll potentially at under $40 million, which is not accounting for <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=snodgr000sco&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Scott  Snodgress</a></strong> or <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/player_search.cgi?results=johnser03,johnso009eri&#038;utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Erik  Johnson</a></strong> or <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=castro001sim&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Simon  Castro</a></strong> or anyone at all rendering one of the first five names irrelevant.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 13px;">Thinking about that group of relievers&#8211;<strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesna01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Nate  Jones</a></strong>, <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vealdo01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Donnie  Veal</a></strong> and <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/reedad01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Addison  Reed</a></strong>&#8211;all hitting arbitration for the first time is a trap, since the likelihood of all three retaining their current standing on the team is slim. Donnie  Veal is 28, has 29.1 major league innings to his name, and only 13 of them were any good. And <em>he </em>was the most dominant out of the three.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 13px;">There&#8217;s not much offense here. <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/konerpa01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Paul  Konerko</a></strong> is likely gone, Dunn is not here, Rios is <em>an option</em>. <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vicieda01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-southsideshowdown.com">Dayan  Viciedo</a></strong> could become a focal point the offense, or more offense could develop from the farm system, but the main thing you&#8217;re supposed to look at here and walk away with is: <em>The 2015 White Sox&#8211;Got some pitching in place, got some money to spend still, need to figure out their offense.</em></span></li>
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<div>In a way, the 2015 Sox will have a lot in common with this year&#8217;s club, which makes sense, because these teams get built the same way most times.</div>
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		<title>Actual White Sox baseball, and a shocking realization</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Fegan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Saturday afternoon brings about the first instance of the White Sox playing a baseball game against another professional team. They played each other recently, but apparently it was terrible and Keenyn Walker dropped a pop-up, and it&#8217;s better to just forget about it. The long, interminable wait between the last time the Sox suited up [...]</p><p><a href="http://southsideshowdown.com/2013/02/23/actual-white-sox-baseball-and-a-shocking-realization/">Actual White Sox baseball, and a shocking realization</a> - <a href="http://southsideshowdown.com">Southside Showdown</a> - <a href="http://southsideshowdown.com">Southside Showdown - A Chicago White Sox Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday afternoon brings about the first instance of the White Sox playing a baseball game against another professional team. They played each other recently, <a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/post/_/id/13511/miscues-aplenty-in-intrasquad-game" target="_blank">but apparently it was terrible and Keenyn Walker dropped a pop-up</a>, and it&#8217;s better to just forget about it.</p>
<p>The long, interminable wait between the last time the Sox suited up (and since it was an October clash in Cleveland where Dan Johnson hit three home runs in a road gray Sox uniform, it feels like it took place on an alternate universe), lends a feeling of significance to this exhibition game.</p>
<p>Good thing Robin Ventura is doing his best to disavow everyone of such illusions. He&#8217;s holding his starters back until March, so Dylan Axelrod is going up against Clayton Kershaw and the Dodgers, and Brent Morel is starting at 3rd base for a sore Jeff Keppinger and batting second, just in case there were any bad memories of one of A.J. Pierzynski&#8217;s off-days in April that you had effectively suppressed.</p>
<p>Really, what this should drive home, is that this game is not real. While it&#8217;s exciting to hear and see baseballs being thrown by people in the right uniform, with the compelling black and white contrast, this is a practice, where the results&#8211;<span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"> </span></p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Game 1 tomorrow !!!!</p>
<p>— hector santiago (@HecSantiago53) <a href="https://twitter.com/HecSantiago53/status/305188896982061057">February 23, 2013</a></p></blockquote>
<p>&#8211;Pipe down, Hector, you&#8217;re not helping to put this in perspective.<span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"> </span></p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>It&#8217;s ChIcago time .</p>
<p>— hector santiago (@HecSantiago53) <a href="https://twitter.com/HecSantiago53/status/305189027374579712">February 23, 2013</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Time? Time for what? Why is the &#8216;i&#8217; capitalized?</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Lets go Chicago lets bring another championship to Chicago</p>
<p>— hector santiago (@HecSantiago53) <a href="https://twitter.com/HecSantiago53/status/305189189081772034">February 23, 2013</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh <em>God</em>, now there&#8217;s no way to reign this back in. Alright, it&#8217;s exciting. It is exciting. We know <em>nothing </em>about this team. <em>Nothing</em>. There are established probability levels for every event, and a pre-existing knowledge that 162 games include a lot of randomness and craziness, but very little is <em>known</em>, or <em>established </em>about the identity of this team.</p>
<p>CSN&#8217;s David Kaplan was being interviewed at the halftime of the Blackhawks game on Friday, and not even about anything related to the White Sox. Yet he threw out a line that one just throws out &#8220; I was just down at their camp, the White Sox look really good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even that, <em>even that</em>, is enough to introduce the thought in my  head &#8220;Wait, maybe Kaplan actually saw something&#8230;something <em>tangible</em>&#8221; even if Kaplan himself probably didn&#8217;t mean to inspire such contemplation. At this stage, just a few bits of evidence that this season can be more than expected weigh more than they do at the end of July.</p>
<p>All this dreaming of low-probability events finally brings me to the realization that initially got all this wide-eyed optimism started. A little over 14 months ago, the White Sox signed two minor league free agents.</p>
<p>In the hierarchy of unheralded signings to get excited about, minor league free agents typically reside below &#8220;washed-up veteran looking for another chance&#8221; and even behind &#8220;former top prospect who never tapped into their potential.&#8221; They&#8217;ve been bouncing around the minor leagues for more than half of a decade, and their old team decided they weren&#8217;t worthy of a 40-man roster spot. Typically not a good sign.</p>
<p>In this case, the minor league free agents were a 27 year-old reliever with a Tommy John surgery in his recent history, and a 22 year-old who was a little too old to provide enthusiasm for his ability to pitch effectively, but not dominantly in High-A. They were Donnie Veal and Jose Quintana, and both are entrenched and locked-in to spots on the 25-man roster for 2013.</p>
<p>There are ways to explain that improbable leap. Both have limited skill sets that they maximized in order to secure somewhat limited roles. But it also serves as a reminder to lessen the confidence I have that the 2013 White Sox season will unfold in a depressingly logical and reasonable fashion.</p>
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		<dc:creator>James Fegan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Continued from earlier, our nervous bantering together What are you excited about this season? Are you still physically capable of getting excited? Nick Schaefer: I&#8217;m really excited (and simultaneously, dread the alternative) how Sale builds on last year. I&#8217;m excited (and dread) to see if John Danks is going to be a $60 million albatross [...]</p><p><a href="http://southsideshowdown.com/2013/02/21/southside-showdown-preseason-roundtable-pt-3/">Southside Showdown Preseason Roundtable Pt. 3</a> - <a href="http://southsideshowdown.com">Southside Showdown</a> - <a href="http://southsideshowdown.com">Southside Showdown - A Chicago White Sox Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://southsideshowdown.com/2013/02/21/southside-showdown-preseason-roundtable-pt-2/" target="_blank">Continued from earlier</a>, our nervous bantering together</p>
<p><strong>What are you excited about this season? Are you still physically capable of getting excited?</strong></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Nick Schaefer</span>: I&#8217;m really excited (and simultaneously, dread the alternative) how Sale builds on last year. I&#8217;m excited (and dread) to see if John Danks is going to be a $60 million albatross (and whether I was right that we should have just kept Buehrle instead), or if he can get back to the hopeful career he had before last year. I&#8217;m excited to see if Dayan Viciedo is going to be more than a platoon player with poor defense.</p>
<div>But to be honest, I&#8217;m most excited to see some sort of definitive move in the franchise &#8211; either they get lucky and everything works out with injuries and performance and the team wins 91 games and then we can see if Chris Sale and Jake Peavy can carry us in the playoffs, or everything goes wrong and they are awful and are forced to sell off everything. I don&#8217;t know that I would mind seeing a true rebuild instead of this perpetual limbo of mid-80s win teams that cynically hope they can be the least bad team in a pile of bad teams.</div>
<p>I am also pumped to watch Courtney Hawkins murder baseballs until he is murdering baseballs on the South Side. That will be nice to see.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Kevin Wallace</span>: The bullpen (you can link my previous post) really excites me this year.  If it completely fails, I will not blame the front office or coaching staff, because on paper, this bullpen is set up pretty well.</p>
<p>The aspect of this team that scares me the most is the starting pitching staff.  Sale and Peavy scare me with with injury concerns.  Danks and Floyd scare me with inconsistency.  Santiago just flat out scares me.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">James Fegan</span>: Excited might be a curious word usage for me here. I get excited every time Dayan Viciedo steps to the plate, and the daydream of his getting fully around on fastball and driving it out to left on balance is impossibly fulfilling, but the man rips my heart out. His improvement is vital, but disaster and failure are very real possibilities as he struggles to improve against right-handed pitching.</p>
<p>Chris Sale is obviously a much more enjoyable watch, but whether his strength and endurance improves or whether the injury bug finally catches up to him determines whether he&#8217;ll add to the anxiety or supply the rippling exhilaration of untouchable greatness.</p>
<p>Lesser lights include desiring to see Addison Reed in the fully-realized version that was promised at the end of 2011, Hector Santiago&#8217;s strikeout-heavy stuff spilling over into the new year, long home runs from Tyler Flowers. There was a time, before Chris Sale came along and made him look like a piece of pyrite, when John Danks jamming right-handers all day long was my favorite White Sox pitching thing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be nice if it came back.</p>
<p>With all of these, the interest in seeing something that indicates that there is hope for the future. Obviously, if the Sox make noise in the playoff race, that&#8217;s going to take precedent, but I&#8217;m excited to see whether the guys who will be around the next three years are going to be formidable.</p>
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